Author Topic: What Defines "Hand Built"?!  (Read 18634 times)

darron

Re: What Defines "Hand Built"?!
« Reply #100 on: September 03, 2011, 09:34:29 PM »
the original thread was about false claims - generally speaking, nothing to do with MI until page 5.

some are claims on the wrong side of a thin line, and some are just wrong.


the "beyond boutique" is ironic to the originally discussion, unintentionally it can show that at some point a pedal becomes good enough that it has to leave the boutique nest completely. i just didn't beat around the bush about it. i wish the world could be open, but i know it can't happen.


it sounds nasty, but i'm trying to say that you can use cheap wire (as i put it, which make it look attacking, but take it LITERALLY. as contrary to cloth wire, teflon, magic voodoo gold) and slap something together. it won't sound different in this case! functionality will be exactly the same.



you know michael, you say i don't like you, but really read over what you quoted. take it honestly and literally and there's nothing defaming that i've said there...

i don't like things you've said, and that's personal and not appropriate here.

now i have to post this in the other tread to defend myself. COPY+PASTE warning.
« Last Edit: September 03, 2011, 09:39:02 PM by darron »
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Govmnt_Lacky

Re: What Defines "Hand Built"?!
« Reply #101 on: September 03, 2011, 09:47:39 PM »
Is this one of those multi-forum slap sessions??  ::)
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darron

Re: What Defines "Hand Built"?!
« Reply #102 on: September 03, 2011, 10:00:04 PM »
Is this one of those multi-forum slap sessions??  ::)

both cheeks are red. yes.

keep on the original track. there's another forum where it's steered in a different direction away from this topic now, so that should be sorted i think.

hope you guys are getting a kick out a bit of controversy at least.



i suppose it's very easy to get angry, frustrated etc. people here are here because they are enthusiasts! of course they should be passionate. i am. and so was Paul back in page 1!
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ClinchFX

Re: What Defines "Hand Built"?!
« Reply #103 on: September 04, 2011, 02:13:52 AM »


This is the first test of a new PCB.  For production, we use a syringe to place solder paste on all pads.  Then we hand place the components and reflow the solder paste using a combination of convection and a hand held hot air tool, similar to the now obsolete Hakko 852.

As sales grow, we will have the boards done with pick and place, which is potentially more reliable than hand soldering.  There is a good electronics assembly shop in our home city.

We currently jig drill the pedal enclosures.  It is mindless and boring work, but the jig makes it more accurate than hand marking.  I have searched for a small engineering company that can CNC drill the enclosures, but, so far, even the small shops are only interested in doing multi thousand quantities.

For the moment, we feel quite justified in calling our products hand made.

Peter.
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michael_ibrahim

Re: What Defines "Hand Built"?!
« Reply #104 on: September 05, 2011, 03:35:06 AM »
Would you like me to respond?

Ronan

Re: What Defines "Hand Built"?!
« Reply #105 on: September 05, 2011, 04:27:27 AM »
I had to watch that video twice, no, 3 times, there was some real emotion in that guitar track.
Haven't heard anything like that for a long time...thanks!

darron

Re: What Defines "Hand Built"?!
« Reply #106 on: September 05, 2011, 04:45:54 AM »
This is the first test of a new PCB.  For production, we use a syringe to place solder paste on all pads.  Then we hand place the components and reflow the solder paste using a combination of convection and a hand held hot air tool, similar to the now obsolete Hakko 852.

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ClinchFX

Re: What Defines "Hand Built"?!
« Reply #107 on: September 06, 2011, 12:53:36 AM »
I had to watch that video twice, no, 3 times, there was some real emotion in that guitar track.
Haven't heard anything like that for a long time...thanks!

Thanks, I've passed your comment on to the young guy who played it.
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Paul Marossy

Re: What Defines "Hand Built"?!
« Reply #108 on: September 06, 2011, 11:50:41 AM »


This is the first test of a new PCB.  For production, we use a syringe to place solder paste on all pads.  Then we hand place the components and reflow the solder paste using a combination of convection and a hand held hot air tool, similar to the now obsolete Hakko 852.

As sales grow, we will have the boards done with pick and place, which is potentially more reliable than hand soldering.  There is a good electronics assembly shop in our home city.

We currently jig drill the pedal enclosures.  It is mindless and boring work, but the jig makes it more accurate than hand marking.  I have searched for a small engineering company that can CNC drill the enclosures, but, so far, even the small shops are only interested in doing multi thousand quantities.

For the moment, we feel quite justified in calling our products hand made.

That's different than having something made completely by machines in China but having "handmade in the USA" printed onto the product. That's basically a big lie.

Ice-9

Re: What Defines "Hand Built"?!
« Reply #109 on: September 06, 2011, 12:00:11 PM »


This is the first test of a new PCB.  For production, we use a syringe to place solder paste on all pads.  Then we hand place the components and reflow the solder paste using a combination of convection and a hand held hot air tool, similar to the now obsolete Hakko 852.

As sales grow, we will have the boards done with pick and place, which is potentially more reliable than hand soldering.  There is a good electronics assembly shop in our home city.

We currently jig drill the pedal enclosures.  It is mindless and boring work, but the jig makes it more accurate than hand marking.  I have searched for a small engineering company that can CNC drill the enclosures, but, so far, even the small shops are only interested in doing multi thousand quantities.

For the moment, we feel quite justified in calling our products hand made, Or handbuild rather.

Peter.

Thats pretty much how i make my own SMD boards, I consider that handmade.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2011, 12:10:59 PM by Ice-9 »
It's fairly straight forward, if you want to start it , press start. You can work out the rest of the controls for yourself !
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Causa Sui

Re: What Defines "Hand Built"?!
« Reply #110 on: September 10, 2011, 07:26:05 AM »

darron

Re: What Defines "Hand Built"?!
« Reply #111 on: September 10, 2011, 07:50:10 AM »
another one post member?

welcome to the forum Causa Sui (:
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