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Morocotopo

My Echo Base version (schem)
« on: August 12, 2009, 12:56:01 PM »
Hi people, Iīve recently built an Echo Base, and reading the corresponding thread and various others, I came up with/implemented some mods in my build.

My schem:



What I did is this:
- I replaced the input buffer with a JFET buffer, to minimize noise (mainly hiss). That left me with an unused opamp, wich I used to make a direct , or dry, out.
- I added a "wet only" switch, to get at the FX output only the delayed signal. This to be able to send (in conjunction with the dry out) the dry signal to one amp and the delayed signal to another one, for example.
- I modded the value of some resistors to make it more "humbucker friendly", I mean, to minimize distortion in the signal path.
- I added a 1/2 voltage reference for the audio opamps and switches, because the 5V reference was shared by those and the PT2399, and slacker mentioned somewhere that this added noise in the signal. So now the 5V is used only by the PT2399 and the LFO opamps.
- Added a 2u2 cap to the LFO to minimize (actually thereīs none) ticking in the signal
- Added a waveshape pot to the LFO, suggested in some thread, to vary the LFO from triangle to square. Actually it doesnīt produce a square, more like a "stairsteped square" thing.

Well, those are my mods, hope Iīm not forgetting something. It works very well, the only thing to keep in mind is that the signal path is inverting, so if used in a parallell config you might get cancellations.

No PCB, sorry, I made it by hacking the available one...

Audio:

http://www.zshare.net/audio/63981179d011e0e7/
http://www.zshare.net/audio/63981281bb1f54a0/
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6398130127ba54b2/
http://www.zshare.net/audio/63981322cd64196f/
http://www.zshare.net/audio/63981391dffcb934/
http://www.zshare.net/audio/63981411f3f42af0/
http://www.zshare.net/audio/63981502a37d3934/
http://www.zshare.net/audio/639815614022addd/
http://www.zshare.net/audio/639816223dca7f7a/

Hope you like it.
Morocotopo

slacker

Re: My Echo Base version (schem)
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2009, 01:10:55 PM »
Nice work with those mods. Sounds very cool :)

Morocotopo

Re: My Echo Base version (schem)
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2009, 01:44:54 PM »
Thanks Slacker, and thanks for making your work available to us! Hope you donīt mind that I used your drawing to show my mods. Neat little thing this FX!
And, by the way, Iīm already thinking about an Echo Base with 2 PT2399īs in series to have double delay time... hehehe...
Morocotopo

slacker

Re: My Echo Base version (schem)
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2009, 01:50:58 PM »
Hope you donīt mind that I used your drawing to show my mods. Neat little thing this FX!

That's fine, I don't mind if people use my stuff, so long as they share it :)

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And, by the way, Iīm already thinking about an Echo Base with 2 PT2399īs in series to have double delay time... hehehe...

There's some information in the main Echo Base thread about this, including some schematics and a layout for an add on board.

arma61

Re: My Echo Base version (schem)
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2009, 08:18:25 AM »
Hi there

is the schematic picture gone ? or am I having problem with photobucket ? can't see it.

Cannot find the copy I've saved when I re-drawed it with ExpressSCH, and need to check components values before starting to populate my PCB.

Thx a mil m8s
Armando
"it's a matter of objectives. If you don't know where you want to go, any direction is about as good as any other." R.G. Keen

arma61

Re: My Echo Base version (schem)
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2009, 02:30:25 PM »
Hi there

is the schematic picture gone ? or am I having problem with photobucket ? can't see it.

Cannot find the copy I've saved when I re-drawed it with ExpressSCH, and need to check components values before starting to populate my PCB.

Thx a mil m8s
Armando



Ok, got it with my Pc at home


Armando
"it's a matter of objectives. If you don't know where you want to go, any direction is about as good as any other." R.G. Keen

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arma61

"it's a matter of objectives. If you don't know where you want to go, any direction is about as good as any other." R.G. Keen

alfafalfa

Re: My Echo Base version (schem)
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2009, 09:18:05 AM »
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- I modded the value of some resistors to make it more "humbucker friendly", I mean, to minimize distortion in the signal path.

Which ones did you mod ?

I would like to try that.

Alf

Morocotopo

Re: My Echo Base version (schem)
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2009, 11:03:29 AM »
Alfalfa, I donīt remember wich ones I modded, compare my schem with the original one, as I remember they were in the area of the PT2399 output. I got the info from Slackerīs thread.
One thing: I found out that my schem eats a bit of highs, even in bypass. Itīs more noticeable when using distortion, because you get more harmonics than with a clean sound. Maybe by tweaking some caps in the in/out buffers it can be solved...
Another thing: the level control doesnīt fully mute the wet signal at minimum, another thing to watch. Maybe using a larger value pot it will work better.

Some day Iīll try to solve this small issues, when I have time. Or if someone makes my schem, you can try...
Morocotopo

arma61

Re: My Echo Base version (schem)
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2009, 03:43:31 AM »
hi there

a quick ?

is using all 2M2 res instead of 1M5 affecting the bypass ciruit?, it's not working properly always "on" and it sucks tone when fx is engaged.

thx m8s
Armando
"it's a matter of objectives. If you don't know where you want to go, any direction is about as good as any other." R.G. Keen