BOSS MT-2 Metal Zone

Started by Jaca, September 06, 2010, 02:05:57 PM

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arma61

while you're choosing which amp to build (it may take a while  :D) look for the Condor Cab Simulator at Runoffgroove. I like it very much, really turns your PC soundcard into an amp, there's also an option to switch to Marshall amp response. Quite easy to build, easy-to-find components, mine worked at first try (after I inserted the IC into the socket, that was 15 mins after I started debuggin it  :icon_mrgreen:  :icon_mrgreen: )

see here

http://www.runoffgroove.com/condor.html

I'l try to record some soundclip to let you hear how it works with a strato klone (it's very old, dusty and rusty!)


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Jaca

Hi Armando!

Thanks the good idea! I will try it. I hope, I have enough free time in my workplace :-)

arma61

Hi, so I've recorded a few sound clips of the Condor CabSim, I know there are plenty of them out there, but this one is done with "crappy" stuff, and still, IMO, can give you the feeling of how the cabsim can change the sound, I hope you can hear the difference as I hear them here "live".
Set up is, a more-than-crappy Strato clone with almost all strings rusty, into a Peavy Rage 158, from headphone out into Line-In of an MP3 player, and may be just a little bit of revb through a Roland DEP-3.

parts are : clean sound no Sim, then clean sound through Sim, then through an HighWay89 no Sim and through HighWay89 with Sim





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Jaca

Hi Armando!
I listened it at 4:30 o'clock AM, with my first coffe :-)
It is sounds cool. I will built it. Thanks! What do You thinks Your amp? May be I make a clone it.

deadastronaut

Quote from: arma61 on September 09, 2010, 05:25:28 PM

(so don't expect something  like deadastronaut !!  :D  :D )


ha ha...thanks! :icon_redface:

that condor sim really does make a difference.
ive looked at that a few times but never got round to building that..its on my list now!!!..nice one.
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Jaca

Rob!
Could You record a clean E string directly from your guitar output? I want to see, what is the different between single coil and humbuckler waveform.

deadastronaut

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Quote from: Jaca on September 10, 2010, 05:15:45 PM
Rob!
Could You record a clean E string directly from your guitar output? I want to see, what is the different between single coil and humbuckler waveform.



ok...give me a minute or 10.... ;)

now im doing requests ha ha.... :icon_rolleyes:

here ya go....

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7464107/lowe.mp3

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Jaca

Oh, Thank You!

It was Very fast! Nice!

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deadastronaut

that was quick....

wouldnt it depend on the volume etc of the samples though?...
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Jaca

I think, it depend the strong of the plunk. At the decay, the two signal is same.

deadastronaut

the plunk.....ha ha.... i like your language.... :icon_mrgreen:

plunk plunk plunk....
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Sorry, google translate "help" me. How to say plunk? In hungary is "pengetés" :-)

edvard

"Pick" would be the word for playing a single string.
"Strum" would be the word for playing chords.

According to this article:
http://buildyourguitar.com/resources/lemme/index.htm
there is more to know about pickup sound.

Single coils mostly have a resonant peak at approximately 4 Kilohertz.
Humbuckers are resonant at lower frequencies, depending on the winding and whether it is wired in parallel or series.
Parallel wired humbuckers are resonant at higher frequencies than the same pickup wired in series.

So generally, humbucker pickups can output more voltage and have a lower resonant peak than single-coils, which contributes much to the different sounds they make.
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arma61

Quote from: Jaca on September 10, 2010, 12:40:53 AM
Hi Armando!
I listened it at 4:30 o'clock AM, with my first coffe :-)


WOW that's early! wear your headphone at that time  :D

Quote from: Jaca on September 10, 2010, 12:40:53 AM
It is sounds cool. I will built it. Thanks! What do You thinks Your amp? May be I make a clone it.


The amp is an old Peavy Rage 158 15W, not worth cloning it, I've heard it's about 40€ on ebay


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arma61

Quote from: deadastronaut on September 10, 2010, 05:01:04 PM

that condor sim really does make a difference.
ive looked at that a few times but never got round to building that..its on my list now!!!..nice one.
rob.
yeah build it, very good specially for recording, even with something like a 386 or a 383 amp, and a car-radio speaker! word!

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arma61

Quote from: Jaca on September 10, 2010, 05:46:22 PM
And here is the waveform:


Quote from: edvard on September 10, 2010, 07:32:39 PM
"Pick" would be the word for playing a single string.
"Strum" would be the word for playing chords.

According to this article:
http://buildyourguitar.com/resources/lemme/index.htm
there is more to know about pickup sound.

Single coils mostly have a resonant peak at approximately 4 Kilohertz.
Humbuckers are resonant at lower frequencies, depending on the winding and whether it is wired in parallel or series.
Parallel wired humbuckers are resonant at higher frequencies than the same pickup wired in series.

So generally, humbucker pickups can output more voltage and have a lower resonant peak than single-coils, which contributes much to the different sounds they make.

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Jaca

Quote from: edvard on September 10, 2010, 07:32:39 PM
According to this article:
http://buildyourguitar.com/resources/lemme/index.htm
there is more to know about pickup sound.
Yes, I found this page, and more other, but I'm a visual man, I want to see it :-)

Thanks, in the future I will pick instead of plunk :-) ( Intresting: in Hungarian language the miner use pick  ???  )

edvard

 :D :D
Yes, miners here use picks too, but the word can be used for both.
English is a funny language sometimes.
Pick is also used for the piece of plastic you play the guitar with, which is where it gets the usage from.
Maybe 'Plunk' was supposed to be 'Pluck'?
Pluck can be used as well as Pick to describe playing one note on a guitar, but it can also mean "pulling feathers from a chicken". :P
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