someone upped this on "another" forum...worth a look!!!!!

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Keppy

Oh, and what's the name of the third animation slider? I can't quite see it clearly in any of the photos. Is it "INTENS. FUZZ RPT"?
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Quote from: Keppy on June 10, 2011, 11:10:09 PM
Oh, and what's the name of the third animation slider? I can't quite see it clearly in any of the photos. Is it "INTENS. FUZZ RPT"?

yep!!

it's a percussion repeat control, and the rate controls it if the select switch is in the middle or down position.

it ticks like a time bomb, but it's supposed to do that. actually sounds quite cool, til ya stop playing. :D
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Keppy

I'm bummed...I can't find any smooth aluminum knobs like in the photos!
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digi2t

Yup, the ticking is cool. It sounds like the beginning of a Pink Floyd song, but the name of it escapes me right now. At first I thought my unit was broken  :icon_lol:

Which knobs are you talking about Kep? The sliders? They're plastic/chrome. Check this out;
http://cgi.ebay.ca/U42030-CHROME-PLASTIC-FL-A-C-SLIDER-CONTROL-KNOB-AMBR-/150350944812?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item23019d5a2c
They look pretty cool.
Or this;
http://www.electronicsurplus.com/Item/151700/UNMARKED%20-%20SILVER%20KNOB%20-%206-350-1/
Not oval, I know, but retro nonetheless.

For my handle, I'm missing one side knob, so I ordered these;
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Aluminium-knob-5608-Jackson-Bros-Tap-M3-new-/390066730323?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item5ad1c9f553
I'll just re-tap them to 10-32, and get some small bushings to fit. I'll use a third one for the fall plate lock.

Then the only thing that will be left will be the mushroom caps, and the handle trim.
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Quote from: Keppy on June 11, 2011, 02:22:05 AM
I'm bummed...I can't find any smooth aluminum knobs like in the photos!


they're just plastic bro...i'll yank one off and measure it for ya and take a couple pics later if ya want. i'd just go for regular rotary pots if i was building a work/soundalike, the sliders are a pia!!
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found this looking for subs for that regulator (q6) on the control board...i have ZERO understanding of this stuff, so forgive me if it's a dead end...

http://www.onsemi.com/pub_link/Collateral/TIP110-D.PDF
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Keppy

Plastic, huh? From the photos I thought they were aluminum, like a Tele knob with no knurling. I'm trying to evoke the original in my build, visually speaking. Definitely using rotary pots, though. Not giving up the space or effort to do sliders.
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digi2t

Most definately  going with regular pots. 16mm in fact. I'm truely not interested in the esoterics here, only the functionality. It should work/sound the same, doesn't need to look the part. Besides, as I mentioned earlier, pedalboard real estate is at a premium for me.
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just a bump to keep this current with the other thread. i believe both of these threads need to be kept current for future spelunkation by internet audio pioneers and their children's children....lol
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Keppy

Nice video, Jimi!

Question though: Dino said in his that the formant trajectory switches don't combine. Rather, parallel defeats counter, which defeats vowel. In other words, if you activate more than one switch, only the activated switch farthest to the left will work. For example, having all three switches on should sound the same as just having the parallel switch on. As far as I can tell, the wiring agrees with this. Is this not the case with your unit?
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digi2t

Gee Jimi, sounds just like mine. Maybe a touch higher frequency on the "yo" (trimmer adjustment), but your camera definately has better sound. Sounds about identical to mine. EXCELLENT!!!!! :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:

My switches are in series. The wiring is traced, as per R.G. update.
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on mine, all three formant switches are interactive. it sounds different, as in the video, depending on which combination of the switches is active!! the vowel switch seems to do the formants, the counter switch seems to morph between them, and the parallel switch appears to put the preceeding two in parallel where both work at once.
i could be wrong as to HOW they work...but i know for sure all three are interactive!

glad ya liked the video, dino...like i said, it's close to yours, but on my puter, yours sounds a little brighter than mine. and i have it tweaked so it's pretty hot...you can ALMOST get it to self-oscillate!! ;)
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Quote from: pinkjimiphoton on June 15, 2011, 09:57:51 AM
on mine, all three formant switches are interactive. it sounds different, as in the video, depending on which combination of the switches is active!! the vowel switch seems to do the formants, the counter switch seems to morph between them, and the parallel switch appears to put the preceeding two in parallel where both work at once.
i could be wrong as to HOW they work...but i know for sure all three are interactive!

Cool. Could you compare yours to R.G.'s wiring diagram to see if it's the same?
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pinkjimiphoton

well, it's the same as the schematic, i know that much...i'll try to look at it tonite. if ya watch the video i made, you can hear that different combos of the switches definitely sound different...which would make sense, really, especially if in series...they seem to be additive! ;)
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i took a peek, it looks good to me, guys...but i'm not so good at really telling what's what...still an egg, ya know? ;)
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here's some pic deets of the switches,lamps, etc...











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Those triggered me to take of my glasses and clean them...  ::)   ;)

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sorry arph, best i could do with this crappy phone!!  :icon_redface: :icon_rolleyes: :icon_eek: :icon_mrgreen:
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