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Zombie chorus with anti tick mod 1590b layout?..

Started by deadastronaut, May 07, 2012, 06:08:49 AM

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#140
June 04, 2012, 08:31:30 AM Last Edit: June 04, 2012, 01:13:36 PM by deadastronaut
ok, no worries, ive stripped back the layout  back to basic without the ground pour just to see it easier...

have fun!.. ;)

i'll get as much done before i test my home brew beer thats ready today!!!...hair of the dog etc... :P


ive audio probed this, getting 'tremolo' at D1 right side!
and audio at pin3 mn3007....dirty, and no chorus..


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Perrow

#141
June 05, 2012, 04:57:06 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on May 31, 2012, 11:44:15 AM
ha ha drinking mainly, any excuse to get away from the queens jubilee lark.. :icon_mrgreen:...

I understand if you feel a bit tired after running from your queen this weekend, it doesn't look like she likes people running away from the celebrations...

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#142
June 05, 2012, 05:11:45 AM
ha ha..yeah that was aimed at me...luckily she's a bad shot!... :)

re the chorus:

i have both chips banging out a clock/lfo etc afaik...just can't get the bugger to chorus!... :'(


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#143
June 05, 2012, 07:46:01 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on June 05, 2012, 05:11:45 AM
ha ha..yeah that was aimed at me...luckily she's a bad shot!... :)

re the chorus:

i have both chips banging out a clock/lfo etc afaik...just can't get the bugger to chorus!... :'(



Something changed? You had no clock before so lets see ya new voltages.

deadastronaut

#144
June 05, 2012, 08:52:39 AM
ok scruffie!  back in a bit, gotta swap breadboards over etc.....my cats looking excited again!..she's dying to play a bit of rush... ;D
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#145
June 05, 2012, 10:21:59 AM Last Edit: June 06, 2012, 07:42:06 AM by deadastronaut
readers beware:  this is for the squeezed 1590b small clone (tonepad)  NOT ZOMBIE OK...

OK  heres goes round 2 ding ding..  :)

Q1
2n3906
C   0.00   
B  4.18
E  4.45-4.66 fluctuates

Q2
2N3904

C  8.85
B  6.81-6.89 fluctuates
E  0.00

Q3
2N3904

C  8.85
B  5.81-6.03 fluctuates
E  4.90-5.16 fluctuates


mn3007

1  4.90-5.19  fl
2  2.36-2.53  fl
3  4.84-5.06 fl
4  0.00
5  0.00
6  2.35-2.52 fl
7  4.24-4.42 fl
8  4.24-4.42

4047

1  4.66-5.01  fl
2  0.08-0.12  fl
3  3.94-4.13  fl
4  4.93-5.18  fl
5  4.90-5.18  fl
6  4.88-5.18  fl
7  0.00
8  0.00
9  0.00
10  2.34-2.52  fl
11  2.36-2.53  fl
12  0.00
13  4.67-5.01  fl
14  4.81-5.18  fl


top opamp 358n

1  1.23-1.94  fl
2  3.60
3  3.57
4  0.00
5  1.38-2.50  fl
6  1.96
7  0.84-6.40  fl
8  8.85


bottom opamp tl072

1  4.42
2  0.00
3  0.00
4  0.00
5  4.42
6  4.43
7  4.43
8  8.86

thats my latest figures...i went over the board triple checked everything, resoldered, scraped between traces etc etc..

just for reference:
3.94-4.13
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#146
June 06, 2012, 05:51:47 AM
 sniff sniff...whimper...boo hoo...sniff.....my chorus doesn't like me... :'(
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#147
June 06, 2012, 07:13:29 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on June 05, 2012, 10:21:59 AM
bottom opamp tl072

1  4.42
2  0.00
3  0.00
4  0.00
5  4.42
6  4.43
7  4.43
8  8.86

This kinda stands out!  :icon_eek:

Zip, Zilch, Nada on Pins 2 and 3? That just 'aint right  :-\
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#148
June 06, 2012, 07:22:05 AM Last Edit: June 06, 2012, 07:30:58 AM by deadastronaut
hmmmm....i'll check around there...thought that was odd.....cheers GL. :)


edit@ just checked, getting 4.4 on pins 1.2.3 now... ???
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#149
June 06, 2012, 07:28:37 AM Last Edit: June 06, 2012, 07:34:22 AM by Govmnt_Lacky
Quote from: deadastronaut on June 05, 2012, 10:21:59 AM
Q1
2n3906
C  4.45-4.66 fluctuates
B  4.18
E  0.00

Also Rob...

Is this a typo? Why do you have a fluctuating voltage on the COLLECTOR of Q1 when it is supposed to be tied to GND?  ???

The transistor isn't installed backwards is it?

EDIT: This message removed because I typed before looking  :icon_redface:
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#150
June 06, 2012, 07:33:36 AM
the 3906 is the same pinout as a 3904 isnt it?....or have i been misled ???
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#151
June 06, 2012, 07:35:35 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on June 06, 2012, 07:33:36 AM
the 3906 is the same pinout as a 3904 isnt it?....or have i been misled ???

Yes it is however, the Collector of Q1 is tied to GND. You posted it as having a fluctuating voltage.
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#152
June 06, 2012, 07:37:16 AM Last Edit: June 06, 2012, 07:42:29 AM by deadastronaut
yep its in the right way...collector 0.00

fluctuates on emitter... :icon_redface:


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#153
June 06, 2012, 07:44:13 AM
You definitely have an issue around Pin 2 and 3 of your TL072. Thats where you signal enters the circuit  :-\

Bad IC perhaps??
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#154
June 06, 2012, 07:45:49 AM
i'll swap it out...cheers man. ;)
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#155
June 06, 2012, 07:48:36 AM
swapped, 

1 4.42
2 4.42
3 4.31
4  0.00
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#156
June 06, 2012, 07:48:51 AM
Sweet!!

Are you hearing the sweet, lush chorus now?  :icon_cool:
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#157
June 06, 2012, 07:52:20 AM
nope!... the mad thing is if i stick a recommended 4558 in there no sound at all....

but get sound with 072's...weird!..unless my 4558 is dodgy...
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#158
June 06, 2012, 07:57:26 AM
Quote from: deadastronaut on June 06, 2012, 07:52:20 AM
nope!... the mad thing is if i stick a recommended 4558 in there no sound at all....

but get sound with 072's...weird!..unless my 4558 is dodgy...

OK.... so like my avatar Patrick says: "Only clean output!!"  :icon_lol:

Probably a bad 4558. You could try another but, it really should not make a difference.

Might want to repost fresh voltages  ;D

Any difference in the output with trimmer adjustments?

Dodgy 3007?
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#159
June 06, 2012, 08:21:05 AM Last Edit: June 06, 2012, 09:01:41 AM by deadastronaut
i stuck the 072 back :

fresh voltages

Q1
2n3906
C   0.00  
B  4.50
E  4.44-4.84 fluctuates

Q2
2N3904

C  8.85
B  6.81-6.92 fluctuates
E  0.00

Q3
2N3904

C  8.85
B  6.05-6.36 fluctuates
E  4.64-5.09 fluctuates


mn3007

1  4.66-5.09  fl
2  2.24-2.49  fl
3  4.62-5.05 fl
4  0.00
5  0.00
6  2.22-2.47 fl
7  4.11-4.36 fl
8  4.11-4.36 fl

4047

1  4.41-4.89  fl
2  0.07-0.12  fl
3  3.70-3.96  fl
4  4.63-5.08  fl
5  4.63-5.08  fl
6  4.63-5.08  fl
7  0.00
8  0.00
9  0.00
10  2.22-2.46  fl
11  2.24-2.49  fl
12  0.00
13  4.47-4.98  fl
14  4.69-5.10  fl


top opamp 358n

1  1.16-2.01  fl
2  3.60
3  3.45
4  0.00
5  1.94-2.07  fl
6  1.90
7  0.39-7.10  fl
8  8.85


bottom opamp tl072

1  4.42
2  4.42
3  4.31
4  0.00
5  4.41
6  4.43
7  4.43
8  8.85

no diffeence on out at all with trim adjust... ???

i stuck a 100pf instead of 150pf going to the 4047...shouldn't matter though?..and a 47n on  input instead of 33nf


edit: if i stick an audio probe on D1 or pin 3 of 4047 and adjust trim i get distorted semi warble sound.....


D1   4.76     4.52 cathode
D2   0.10     3.79-3.83 cathode fl
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