On an additional note, would you as a Japanese speaker (for those of you that are) refer to me as "Gaijin" ? That's not really very nice, is it?

...  that most Americans are NOT obese.  I, for example, am only about 20 pounds above my high school "fighting weight".  If I get on another stressful project, I'll drop that and more in a heartbeat!

As for the lawsuit thing, I have better things to do than sit in a stupid courtroom for weeks at a time.

QuoteOn an additional note, would you as a Japanese speaker (for those of you that are) refer to me as "Gaijin" ?
                                    That's not really very nice, is it?

Technically Gaijin just means Gai=outside jin=person and it usually means anyone non-Asian. Although I do think it was derived because of our elitist-island mentality I don't think it is used in a derogatory manner too often. Next time a Japanese calls you gaijin correct them by saying 'No __________(insert your country)-jin'.

By the way what are those color lines on the resistors anyway?
Jun

Unfortunately we are only on this planet for a short duration of time,  in comparison to how many years life has existed on this planet.  
We are all humans with minds, hearts and I believe souls.
We probably all have had our ups and downs in our lives and we will have more before we leave this life that we know.
In this short period of time we have here, because of computers, we have an opportunity to be able to talk to people from all over our planet and learn new and exciting things about each other and each other's cultures like we never have been able to in the past.
Time is too short to waste it on bickering about who said what about who or what.
Yes, understanding every different culture is not an easy task, and not being a genius, makes it even harder.   Pointing out faults in a conversation is a good thing, so that we can more fully understand other cultures, but arguing and complaining is not the answer.  Yes, this reminds one of all the injustices people and lawyers and politicians do on a daily basis.   But, the majority of people on this planet are decent hard working people trying to make ends meet each day, week, year and still trying to lead a happy, respectful and prosperous life.    
Insults to another culture are not good, but saying things that offend other cultures when you don't know that it is offending them, should not make them a bad person, just not educated on other cultures.  
I send and have sent parts to people in this forum all over the world, to countries that our country(USA) has fought wars against in the past.  
I do this out of generosity and just plain caring about others.   I was once younger and had no money and I would have been so happy to receive some parts from someone from the other side of the world that had a few extra parts that they could spare.  And it wouldn't matter which country they came from.  It would just mean that they were decent people trying to help other people.
I as a person do not hate people in other countries just because our governments have had disputes.   Like I said "We are all humans with minds, hearts and I believe souls" that just live out our lives while we can!

"The world is getting smaller, maybe we should get bigger"!

Peace!
Arn C.

I guess that's similar to the Navaho - their word for themselves is "Dineh" ("The people" ). They have words for the other tribes in the lands adjacent to theirs. EVERYONE else (Europeans, Asians, everybody) are "belagana" ("strangers").

Quote from: Arn C.Time is too short to waste it on bickering about who said what about who or what...

Well said, Arn!  Fellow forum-dwellers, I move that this discussion thread be closed!

What say you, O Moderator?

Quote from: puretubeNOW STOP THIS PLEASE, SIR !!!

Dai H. wrote:

Quotelook, I don't want to beat a dead horse, but, this was said:

puretube wrote:
the "ethics committee" doesn`t seem to work on jp. IP....


Correct? Well, it looks to me like there is an association of Japanese-ness w/un-ethical behavior.

IT IS YOU, who has very totally completely misunderstood that post.

And that is a fully different issue than that abbreviation 3-letter "fault".

the "ethics committee" doesn`t seem to work on Japanese Intellectual Property...


(as it should have been written out completely...)

was meant to (and has been unserstood by most forum-readers/-contributors very well, like the thread which was thankfully started by "afranks" as a follow-up proves) say exactly this:

>>>why does nobody else (besides me), who usually on this forum take care about copyrights and IP,
and to whom I refer to as the "ethics committee",
say out loud, that it is wrong to treat Japanese IP other than other country`s IP, that it is wrong to say nothing in defence of a Japanese book, while the contrary has happened in this forum before, concerning other old books<<<

It was more of like a question and a call upon others to react:
>why does no-one say s.th. against publishing a Japanese book "illegally", whilst this has been discussed in length and rejected beforetimes  here,
about a "Boscorelli"-book (which nationality? - I don`t know!!!)
and other (us) books.<

Don`t You want to understand, that I just wanted to x-press,
that all IP is "born" equal, and should be respected that way!?

Okay, I understand what you were trying to say better now. I didn't understand what you were trying to get across and I got emotional because you used the term "jap", and didn't seem to have any problems using the term (your response: "b.t.w.: I abbrev. wrds. the way I wanna...") which didn't appear to be friendly, and which to me compounded what looked to me like a purposeful insult.

Quote from: Brett Clark

QuoteOkay, so when someone for example brings up some scammer on ebay, who from language, location, etc. appears to be an American, does the fact that that person is American ever come up? Is it emphasized, ever?? Or does anyone even bring up the State the person is in? "Oh, look at him, he's a Louisianan... Hmm..."

As we would say here in Tennessee, "you ain't from around here, are you?"

On many forums (fora, actually...), I have seen Americans maligned as greedy, imperialistic, gun-obsessed, shallow, uncultured, etc. Sometimes, even here    .  Is it somewhat true? Yes. But most stereotypes have some origin in truth.

Well, I guess my point is moot if pure tube did not mean to say there is some inherent problem Japanese have w/ethics. On stereotypes of Americans--I've known way too many to have some goofy cartoon caricature of "an American" in my head. Doesn't register at all. Although of course, there can be general similarities w/groups of Americans. One stereotype of Americans in Japan for instance--white, blond, big nose, hairy, smelling of butter, etc.--that means nothing to me. It's beyond goofy.

QuoteAnd yet, few Americans take real offence to being called "Yank" or even "Gringo", even though those were intended originally (or even still) as derogatory terms. As a Southern American, I certainly wouldn't be a "Yankee" to another American, but if called that by a foreigner, I wear the term with pride.

hmm... well, one time I was w/a Canadian and Swedish friend, and some American guy took offence at the Canadian remarking that the American guy was a "Yank", and it almost turned into a fight (there was some pushing, shoving between them).The Canadian guy didn't intend it to be an insult, just a description. All three of us had much of the same American friends (he thought we hated Americans?? Huh??), so I thought the guy's reaction was sort of bizarre-- "Where are you from? Japan. Where are you from? Sweden, etc." then the pushing match ensued. I think about it now, and it's still a really weird experience. Twilight Zone...

QuoteSpeaking of other Americans: YES, we are very much aware of what states people are from and the associated stereotypes. Many Americans assume, for example, that Tennesseans are ignorant, inbred, drunken "rednecks". Some are. But some of us are not (Ansil, TroubledTom, Marcus Dahl, and myself, just for starters). I've actually had people from elsewhere tell me that I "couldn't be from Tennessee" because I don't match their stereotype.
Every state has a stereotype, even if it's only that it's so bland it doesn't merit a REAL stereotype. You know who you are...

Re: southern stereotypes: yes I'm aware of them, and I don't look at Southern people as a stereotype. (I've known people from the south before then, but) I've lived in Texas for a short while and I know things from experience that people there vary. Duh. Did you assume that I didn't?

Quote from: Brett ClarkOn an additional note, would you as a Japanese speaker (for those of you that are) refer to me as "Gaijin" ? That's not really very nice, is it?

Personally, I prefer specifics--like Canada-jin, America-jin or whatever. If you were to say that most people use the term "gaijin" (to refer to mainly Western foreigners), then I think that would be true. Probably most people are not sensitive to the fact that foreigners can take offense to the term but there is not necessarily ill intent when the word is used. Plus to my ear, it doesn't have the weight in history behind it, as say "nigger". Maybe more like "coonass"? Sort of? It's a truncated version of "gaikokujin" = foreigner, and in the "gaijin" form ("outside"+"person"), I guess it "feels" and sounds to the foreign person like "outsider", like an exclusionary type of thing, esp. to non-Japanese who feel at home here but still are called "outsider". People think of themselves as largely homogeneous (even though it's not exactly true), so I guess most people don't have a problem w/categorizing everyone in the world as either insider or outsider, Japanese/non-Japanese. Different history too though, compared to the U.S., Canada, Western Europe--anywhere there has been lots of immigration, multi-ethnic societies. If you thought that if I knew you or were around you and I would throw around the term "gaijin", you would be wrong. Why did you get the idea that I would be insentitive to that? And what did you know about the term "gaijin"? Did you just think it was just a straightforward hateful insult, like, "sand nigger", say? Or?
You know, I see "Jap" being used as a truncated form of "Japanese" on the boards I frequent, I don't really like it but it isn't as if I blow a gasket over it each time it happens esp. if I can see if the person didn't mean any harm. I notice some people never use the abbreviated term, and I can appreciate that. Most of the time, I don't say anything when it happens. I let it go.

Quoteif pure tube did not mean to say there is some inherent problem Japanese have w/ethics

the word "if" insults me.
I wouldn`t be insulted if it read :"since"!

once again: it meant to say the following:

"HEY, REST OF THE FORUM: WHY DON`T YOU HELP THOSE JAPANESE AUTHORS, THAT SEEM TO BE CHEATED UPON, THE SAME WAY THAT YOU,
THE FORUM, (or those members of the forum that I named the : "ethics committee", and they know who they are...) HELPED OTHER AUTHORS NOT TO BE CHEATED UPON, BEFORE"

i.e. (in brackets: short for: "id est", an ancient latin shortcut with the meaning of: "that is", or "that means"...)
(btw.: didn`t google or "webster" that, but remember that from about 35yrs ago in school...):
I actually accused the rest of the world
(absolutely excluding the Japanese people, since I did not know at that point, that mr. Jun is one of them...),
(please forgive me, restoftheworldians...)
of having inherent problems with Japanese ethics!
(which are, like stated many times before, of the same value as others)

QuoteOne stereotype of Americans in Japan for instance--white, blond, big nose, hairy, smelling of butter

Well, I'M white, blond, and hairy. My nose is small by European standards, but may be big by Asian ones. I don't think I smell of butter, but I do eat way more dairy products than most Asians could tolerate, so maybe I do.

I'm not a "roundeye", though. Some Goth or Mongol visitor in my ancestry was kind enough to contribute partial epicanthic folds to my corner of the gene pool...

Just trying to see the humor in all this...

yeah, Brett...
but you're from Tennessee.. so you're probably an uneducated backwoods redneck.  (sorry, it was just too easy to pass up)

Now - If I'm originally from Boston (REALLY a Yank).. currently live in Florida (which, by stereotype should make me either Cuban or 70 years old).. and I'm moving to Alabama, then Georgia...  

Will that make me an old-cuban-yankee-redneck?
"-)

"..thank you - I'll be here all week - enjoy your salads."

I understood Puretube the first time round....perfectly...this whole thing has been blown WAAAAAAAAAAY out of proportion!...to the point where my eyes are glazin....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz (wake me up when this is over)