BSIAB II Build Photos

Started by MartyMart, August 19, 2004, 03:58:31 AM

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MartyMart

Here's some pics of the BSIAB II/Tube reamer, which both sound great!.
Excuse the untidy wiring, i'm still trying to get the hang of length/placement insude a small box !!.
Comments are most welcome.
Thanks, Marty.

http://irev.net/martymart/BSIABReam.jpg
http://irev.net/martymart/BSIABinside1.jpg
http://irev.net/martymart/BSIAB-Board.jpg
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casey

Quote from: MartyMartHere's some pics of the BSIAB II/Tube reamer, which both sound great!.
Excuse the untidy wiring, i'm still trying to get the hang of length/placement insude a small box !!.
Comments are most welcome.
Thanks, Marty.

http://irev.net/martymart/BSIABReam.jpg
http://irev.net/martymart/BSIABinside1.jpg
http://irev.net/martymart/BSIAB-Board.jpg

great job man,  i dont think it's that messy at all.  ive seen worse.
what matters is that it sounds great and will stand to abuse.

great work.
Casey Campbell

MartyMart

Thanks casey ! i'm over the moon about them, even that they worked first time !!
BSIAB II is worth building, sounds fantastic !
Cheers,
Marty. :D
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm"
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Lonestarjohnny

Goodlookin Perf job Marty, Ya just gotta luv it. the pedal kick's some Major Ass !,  8)  8)  8)  8)  8)
Johnny

csj

congratulations. The BSIABII and the MkII Fuzz will be my next two builds after I get this Herzog thingy done today.

It looks like you've got the copper padded holes on the top, component side. FWIW, I'd flip the board over and use the pads on the bottom to help the solder stick. To each their own. Good job.

Fret Wire

Nice perf layout Marty. The wiring isn't that bad (decent actually), the pos battery lead could stand to be shortened a bit. If it doesn't pickup noise, or oscillate, the wiring is fine.

You know the thing: you re-model a room in your house. In one corner, the ceiling molding miter is off a couple of degree's. No one notices, and says what a beautiful job you've done. But you know the little mistake is there, and it drives you nuts everytime you see it. If our wiring isn't perfect, it annoys us everytime we change batteries.

Remember, when you see perfect wiring jobs, it's due to repetition of the same layout.
Fret Wire
(Keyser Soze)

Fret Wire

If you use the same box size, and the same board, switch, jack, dc jack, and LED placement, you can standardize your wiring length quickly. Then the only new wiring length you need to work out is for the number of pots. Just remember to write down the standard component hook up's and their length for future builds.

I used to mount everything in the box unwired, and use solid core wire to work out the length. With solid core, you can strip the leads and bend them over on the solder lugs of the components, and they'll stay put. When you have the wiring length to your satisfaction, write down the lengths for future reference.

BTW, how did you like the Tube Reamer? It's got a great sound IMHO.
Fret Wire
(Keyser Soze)

Paul Marossy


MartyMart

Thanks guys !  I sorted out the trim pot with help from RDV and its "singin like a bird" now !  more builds= better wiring !!
csj:
It looks like you've got the copper padded holes on the top, component side. FWIW, I'd flip the board over and use the pads on the bottom to help the solder stick. To each their own. Good job.

Its just plain perf board, have'nt tried copper clad board yet, but will soon.
Tube reamer has a problem, its at full gain all the time ! even on zero gain-pot ?
Just built a second board and its exactly the same !!  am i missing something ??
Regards,
Marty.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm"
My Website www.martinlister.com

Fret Wire

Do you have lugs 1 & 2 tied together, going to the 1k resistor? Lug 3 goes to the 470k resistor.

Fret Wire
(Keyser Soze)

bwanasonic

Quote from: Fret WireIf you use the same box size, and the same board, switch, jack, dc jack, and LED placement, you can standardize your wiring length quickly.

Thanks for the tip!

Kerry M

MartyMart

Fretwire wrote:
Do you have lugs 1 & 2 tied together, going to the 1k resistor? Lug 3 goes to the 470k resistor.

Yes, i've followed the perf build/schem and can't for the life of me, work out whats wrong...... 2 builds !!
Second build i used a pair of germanium diodes, and at first got hardly any break up, so i DID get a clean signal ! as soon as i swopped them out for 1N4148's  i got the repeated "full drive" again !
Thoughts ??  are the pot values correct ? could my 1m ohm resistor be wrong/much smaller ?? its brown black green gold
Thanks,
Marty.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm"
My Website www.martinlister.com

Fret Wire

The Gain pot is 5k lin., and the Volume is 100k log. The color band you gave is correct for a 1M, but that's not directly tied to the gain pot, 1k (brown, black, red, gold)  & 470k (yellow, violet, yellow, gold) are. Double check your diode and IC orientation.  Should be good gain even with Ge diodes. It's starting to sound like a soldering or wiring problem. Double check all resistor and cap values.
http://www.dannyg.com/examples/res2/resistor.htm
Fret Wire
(Keyser Soze)

Fret Wire

On your volume pot, lug 3 is marked, lug 2 is your "out", and lug 1 is tied to the ground. It looks like you don't have a LED or DC jack, so I'm guessing you used a DPDT switch. Either of these wiring schem's will work fine.
http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/v2/diagrams/switch_lo_dpdt_std.gif

http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/v2/diagrams/switch_lo_dpdt_input_grd.gif
Fret Wire
(Keyser Soze)

GreenEye

I'd like to do one of those next; I've read nothing but good things.  Nice looking pedal you got there.

MartyMart

Yeah, its a DPDT switch, as per the info you posted.
I've checked all the values and wiring, it all looks good, its a very simple circuit ! wierd the BSIAB is much more complex and works fine !
I'm using panasonic NE5534A op amps, it is a single op amp in the schem isnt it ?
Marty.
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Fret Wire

It's a single op amp. The NE5534 shouldn't be a problem. Don't know if Panasonic's "A" designation is different from the standard 5534. You can always try a TLO71 or 741.
Fret Wire
(Keyser Soze)

Fret Wire

I dug up my perf test, and fired it up. Same thing. Look at the schematic. The gain goes from 471-476, if my late nite math is correct. So basically all you'll get is the bass rolloff from 122-725 hz when you crank up the gain pot. Kind of a one trick pony, TS meets the Distortion +.

Off the top of my head I'm thinking go up to 500k on the gain pot, up the 1k to 1.5k, and drop the 470k to 50k. The .22uf cap will have to be adjusted. I'll go over it again tomorrow.
Fret Wire
(Keyser Soze)

MartyMart

Fret Wire, you are "the man"  !!   that is all i get, a fully distorted ( and quite nice IMHO ) sound, with bass rolled off as you increase the gain pot, 5k pot does seem kind of small though eh?
I'll wait 'til you've had a think ( its UK time here so catch you later )  i wonder if anyone else has built it and had a problem? ROG ?
Regards  and thanks
Marty.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm"
My Website www.martinlister.com