Where I could get one of these?



This one was on ebay but I lost the auction, but  i am sure they must be advalible from some where else.  Where better to ask than here!

Thanks in advance

What whould you use it for ?!? :?

What would i use it for?!?!?!?!? I think the possablities for it are pretty dam huge!

I have been toying for ages about putting joystick control on to a stomp box, so i can wiggle it with my foot as im playing.

The main circuit I have in mind for it is the Ugly face. This is because at the moment i have to get someone else to "twiddle the knobs" for me while i'm playing.
Like So

By having a joystick control would make it even more versitile!

Old video games, some surplus places have them, though I've not seen any for a while.

For foot operation, you'd do better with a tracker ball. If you overbalance while wiggling a joystick and put your weight on it, it won't survive.  :cry:

I once found a site where a guy built a synth - a real huge one - and he had a stick like this to control something

Too Cool !!! but what resistances do these things have?

Happ controls has tons of joysticks: www.happcontrols.com along with mounting hardware, although it looks like that one is using two pots to control the position.  In that case, what you want is an old Atari 5200 controller (easily found on ebay).  They have two pots that give position, you'll have to hack the connector, but that's no problem.

I will warn you, however, that the atari 5200 controllers are TERRIBLY flakey at best, they have to be constantly cleaned/repaired and the pots wear out.  

You've stumbled onto my other hobby here...if you have any other questions, just yell.

Ry

Man, I feel terrible!  I just threw out 2 boxes full of TI 99 stuff including joysticks etc...  Game cartridges, a few ti 99's etc...  I have been holding onto this stuff for about 6 years and nothing to do with it so I finally tossed it , just last week!   Sorry dude!

Peace!
Arn C.

In the U.S. Digikey sells some. However, I've never seen them. I happened to find a few on the surplus market a couple years back and used them to make some simple synths. The analog joysticks on the happcontrols site are @#$%in' way crazy expensive.

A while ago Colin (anonymousexperimentalist) posted pictures of a heavily modified Big Muff that he put in a huge nintendo "box style" controller (like the one shown below).


He used the joystick (which is basically an SP4T switch) to control different aspects of the circuit.
The picture's gone from the thread, but you can read it here:
http://diystompboxes.com/sboxforum/viewtopic.php?t=16264&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
Awesome idea.

Alex

Be cautious about grabbing up just any old joystick controller.  The joystick in the original posting here is an X-Y pot arrangement.  Many of the commercially available joysticks are essentially replacements for the up/down/left/right button pads and keyboard keys.  Happily, not all of them are, and you may be able to find one (with spring-based centre-return) that can be readily adapted to audio control purposes.

Incidentally, busted remote controllers for RC vehicles/planes/etc would likely have them.  Now that Ithnk of it, if there is any sort of hobby outlet for RC entusiasts in your area I bet they'd probably have some.

Mark is right (of course), the only cheap pot-controlled joysticks I know of are the original atari 5200 ones.  It's a terribly flawed design, not repeated.  The 5200 sticks were not self-centering (another drawback).
The Nintendo sticks and every other system I can think of have keypad contact type controls (as Mark mentioned), which are just copper pads that a plastic or rubber plunger makes contact with.  There are some leaf-switch operated arcade joysticks, but they are really expensive.  The same goes for the Hall Effect ones.

Happ controls are not cheap, that's for sure!  I just thought of them off the top of my head.

Ry

BTW- that looks much more like a radio control joystick than any game stick. I have a bunch of dead Playstation "dual-shock" controllers that joysticks might be salvagable from.  Check for replacement radio control parts and you may find the one pictured.

Kerry M

Quote from: Ry
The Nintendo sticks and every other system I can think of have keypad contact type controls (as Mark mentioned), which are just copper pads that a plastic or rubber plunger makes contact with.  There are some leaf-switch operated arcade joysticks, but they are really expensive.  The same goes for the Hall Effect ones.

The Nintendo 64 controllers use some kind of optical deal, maybe like an optical mouse? Not sure what the playstation analog controllers look like dissected. I have a dead Gamecube controller waiting to be dismantled.

Kerry M

Quote from: StebenWhat whould you use it for ?!? :?

I once made a distortion pedal that used a analog joystick to control the distortion properties. Up/down faded between different diode types and left/right controlled asymetical clipping. I could then dial in different shades of distortion. Fun thing.

Andrew

A friend of mine has about 50 of these. I believe they are NOS, never used. They might be $5, they might be $10 - I don't know for sure. I can find out if  you would like to buy one from me. I will gladly send pictures to you so you can check it out yourself.

I'm not in the business of selling this stuff. It's just passing things along that others can use. I also have new Dunlop HotPotz for wah pedals.

maybe you construct s.th. with 2 pots 90degrees off axis like this ?:


http://www.puretube.de/3dc691.jpg
http://www.puretube.de/3dc689.jpg
http://www.puretube.de/3dc688.jpg
http://www.puretube.de/3dc687.jpg
http://www.puretube.de/3dc686.jpg

Digikey has what appears to be a fairly miniature analog joystick:
http://rocky.digikey.com/scripts/ProductInfo.dll?Site=US&V=60&M=252A104B60NA

And I believe Alps still make one about an inch cube, I have a bunch, but not the matching handle that screws onto the threaded bolt. Kind of a "no-joy" stick.. 10K and 100K seem the commonest joystick pot values. Of course all "analog" style games controllers have a setup, on my original midi-cv converter the chap who programmed it put in a "refverse" mode where you plug a standard analog games joystick in & when you fire it gives a MIDI note on, L/R for pitch & F/B for volume (velocity). plus you can waggle while note is held on & get pitchbend, niice

Thank you so much for all these replys.

markr04 I'd love to see some pic's to see if they look like the right thing. email them to hungeryhippie@yahoo.co.uk And if its right i'll take u up on your offer.



Puretube that looks awsome, what do u use that for? U have kick started me in to thinking of other ways to tackle this, Since orginally I thought a X Y joystick be ok. Where did the plastic rack n pinion come from? is it salvaged from some where else? Do u have any other pics of stuff like that?

those pix are of a 10 year old cross-over thingy between
Tube-Wah(TM) and what`s known now as Tube Zipper;
 
rack & pinion are from http://www.conrad.de, Germany`s
largest electronics postorder`s RC/toys DIY department ("Modellbau").
the racks come in 50cm long units you can cut to length;
pinions come in different sizes/number of teeth;

the problems with those game-joysticks is their reduced rotation-range:
e.g. a 100k pot rotates between 30k & 70k...
(when you control voltages with them, it`s ok, coz U can trim them to zero & max; but once you need the true ohmic resistance...

see also here:

&
http://www.pure-tube-technology.de/