Author Topic: Aion Radian (Rangemaster clone) - Noise Issues  (Read 1554 times)

psb962

Re: Aion Radian (Rangemaster clone) - Noise Issues
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2023, 07:54:23 PM »
Can I just add that this pedal is well worth it. Not only does it bring that 'top boost' chime, but what it does to the harmonics in the upper registers is nothing short of magic. Pure rock and roll!

psb962

Re: Aion Radian (Rangemaster clone) - Noise Issues
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2023, 08:21:27 PM »
Surprisingly (or not) a lot of pedal circuits do incorporate some basic EMC provisions only because people blindly copy what others have done. This includes such things as adding a small resistor in series with the input and a small value capacitor to ground to help filter any RF ingress or egress via the input connection. Also adding a suitable Miller capacitor to a high gain transistor stage or an op amp to limit the high end gain and kill off any parasitic oscillations in the RF spectrum. ....

I've noticed that other boosts have something like a 10k resistor on the input in the signal path. Is this something I should try with this build to noise-proof it a little? My options are limited as its a kit PCB build, but fitting a 10k in the signal path shouldnt be too hard.

FSFX

Re: Aion Radian (Rangemaster clone) - Noise Issues
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2023, 04:08:24 AM »
I've noticed that other boosts have something like a 10k resistor on the input in the signal path. Is this something I should try

Because of the very low input impedance of the Rangemaster circuit then a 10k resistor would probably be a bit on the large size and would attenuate the input signal quite a bit. I would try using something like a 1k resistor followed by a 470pF or 1nF capacitor to ground to form a lowpass filter. The cutoff frequency of that is way above the audio range but will reduce any RF signals from broadcast stations and cellphones.

As regards the use of ferrite beads that some often mention, for information, I tested a few with different numbers of turns and this is the inductances I read on a Peak LCR45 tester. The straight wire is just for reference. You can see that the inductance is very low and so their use would likely only filter out very high frequency RF signals.
   


psb962

Re: Aion Radian (Rangemaster clone) - Noise Issues
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2023, 05:01:39 PM »
I started getting loud crackling sounds so opened the pedal up again as clearly there was still a bad joint.

Redid all the soldering again.

I then 'rocked it out of the box' - which is easy to do with Aion's style of offboard wiring. However, I spent over an hour trying to debug a 'signal when off but no signal when on' problem before I realized that the pedal works best if you plug the input into the Input, and the output into the Output.

Another lesson learned from build #1....