Hi I'm new and: Fuzzrite stuff

Started by sunder, February 29, 2004, 07:57:29 AM

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sunder

Hi,

I'm new on this forum. Short introduction:

I'm 29 and have played guitar for 20 years now. Got into building/modding some years ago. I've been lurking here now and then, and now I hope I can contribute something to the community.

Fuzzrite... I have built a clone with BC108 A transistors and messed around with some values. Here are my findings.

The BC108 seems to have been a lucky choice for this; it seems to sound really good, not much gain really but nice breakup and texture. I found out that the original TZ82's were small signal silicon NPN's (on the American Semiconductors page IIRC), so I grabbed these (leftovers from fuzz face experiments).

I used 470 k resistors on both collectors, which sounded OK but not great. I then tried 4k7 resistors and the unit got really loud and noisy. With the 4k7's I measured  ca. 6.5 v on Q2's collector, that seems to have been too much...

Right now I have 68k resistors in there and it sounds just right. Most of the noise is gone, it has a little better bass response (...?) and it sounds a little "tighter". I measure under 1v on Q2's collector, a little over 1v on Q1.

I used a 22k volume pot and a 470k fuzz pot, just because that's what I had in my scrap box. The caps are .0022 and .047 sizes. I might play around with them to get a little more bass, although that may take away from the midrange buzziness...

The overall sound is bright, ratty and 60's style buzzy. With my Tele and AC30 I came very close to the "Satisfaction" sound (as well as some "Sticky Fingers" style riffing). Satisfied! I didn't notice the octave up effect some of you wrote about, that may have something to do with the transistors? don't know.

It's a "character" fuzz for sure.  This pedal has sharp teeth.

petemoore

We used to live in Bitburg///I'll Never forgter living in the Eifel !!
 Really, a magical place !!!
 You've done some 'Homework' on this circuit!!!
 Those 470k's just never looked 'right'...I tried this one a couple times before I knew anything about biasing transistors, and got limited returns/nothing.
 I chose it at the time because of the schematic's unuasually symmetrical appearance.
Convention creates following, following creates convention.

sunder

Never lived in the Eifel, but my family stayed around Frankfurt for some time. Nice place, though I missed the water/beaches... Kiel is about 100km north of Hamburg (no, that's still germany, not Denmark) :) port town with ferries to Scandinavia, those ships are bigger than most houses here. (heh)

Fuzzrite: I had no 47k (might have tried them), but found some 68k and tried them.

Try it! It sounds cool. Very few parts, too.

I just drew an alternate schematic that doesn't show the symmetry. Looks a lot like a Fuzz Face without the feedback resistor. Of course, there are fewer components (even fewer) and the fuzz control works totally different. It's like a balance/blend control which mixes the output from each transistor stage. As you mix in the second stage, you get more gain (obviously) and more mids/highs.

It's really just two identical (and very rudimentary) transistor stages in series, with the blend control between the two outputs.