BLACK FOREST High Gain Preamp - Based on the Bogner Uberschall

Started by J0K3RX, September 01, 2012, 02:49:40 PM

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Quote from: Singulano on June 10, 2015, 06:19:16 PM
A little test... cheap Condor guitar, Engl Preamp, Poulin Lecab 2.

https://soundcloud.com/samuel-singulano/engl-e530-by-j0k3rx

Sounds pretty good man!! I have to say it really kinda freaked me out when I listened to it! I clicked on the link, it started playing and I got a phone call and muted the volume. I got off the phone, turned the volume back up and the AMT Pangaea demo had started playing and I thought it was still the Engl :o  :P  :o.....Wooooh :icon_lol:
Doesn't matter what you did to get it... If it sounds good, then it is good!

bamslam69

This sounds like the ideal pedal to fill a spare 1590BB box I have.
Jok3rx, can I clarify that the Blacker Forest - No return Version 5 schematic (found on page 41) is all good?

Feeling pretty optimistic for a 2nd pedal build. :)

Ps. was there a schematic for the Engl box from Singulano's recording? That sounds epic!
Yeah Nah - Nah Yeah

Singulano

bamslam69, the Engl details is in the page 14  ;)
That pedal is great, I've made 2 for me  :icon_cool:

bamslam69

Yeah Nah - Nah Yeah

J0K3RX

Yeah, reply# 817 on page 41 should be good to go.. Been a while since I looked at all of them :icon_rolleyes:

The Screamin Eagle (ENGL) is the gtlab.net / guitarjfet.ru design with some minor changes and mods that I added along the way...

All files including the Sprint layout files can be downloaded here..
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/m1u88kbmpavqmxa/AAB-EqzwuripkZM7uDqVJqPwa?dl=0


Doesn't matter what you did to get it... If it sounds good, then it is good!

blackieNYC

Hey J,
That entry 817 is a layout.  There is a schematic on that page in 805 and it has the add-on circuit. So you have the Black Forest, the Black Forest No Return with the added output stsge, and the Blacker Forest. The Screaming Eagle is something else altogether, right?
For whatever reason, I enthusiastically put "Blacker Forest" on my build list. I thought I kept a link for that somewhere.  I hate to ask an author for the Cliff Notes version, but could you give me a "JOK3RX for Dummies" rundown of these above schematics and what you think of them? Is this a project that has branched off into a few successful projects, or has this (to you, not neccesarily to our collective) evolved into one Final?
Thanks for these awesome designs, bro!
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bamslam69

Oh wow, thanks heaps Jok3rx.
I'll check out all the sound files tonight.
I've only etched a pcb once a long, long time ago, so this will give me the incentive to relearn it all.

[too many things on my to-do list]


Yeah Nah - Nah Yeah

Zilla

J0K3RX,

This thread is awesome! you'd done some awesome work with this!

i have a question regarding the screaming eagle schematic above.

Lug 1 on the gain pot and quite a few other components are shown to go to 4.5V.

if i look at another schematic like the Dr. Boogie all of these components are going to ground.

is this right? why would your schematics show it going to supply/2 ?

bamslam69

Joker Do you have a photo of a completed Screaming Eagle? I'm just interested to see if you've added all those options and how you accommodated them in the enclosure.
Cheers

Yeah Nah - Nah Yeah

J0K3RX

It's gettin close to Halloween so, I thought I would get out my gravedigger shovel and exhume this rotting, decomposed corpse of a topic  :icon_twisted:

Over time, a lot of people have messaged me asking various questions about the Screamin Eagle and some of the other FET preamp pedals.. I came across this not long ago and thought it was interesting! Also, it looks like nearly all of his builds are on vero which is not really my thing but, he really pulls it off well and his boxes sound pretty damn good! Dude can really chunk out a mess of vero builds at one time!  :o

Website
http://mastereffects.wixsite.com/mastereffects





Another guy who built the Screamin Eagle



And just for good measure a little 3-string shovel slide geetar... 
cause gravediggin is a hole lot more funner with some good old shovel geetar  :icon_twisted:


If ya ain't got a spare shovel then just grab ya a stiff 2x4, an old bass string an make ya one of these here djent sticks :icon_evil:



Doesn't matter what you did to get it... If it sounds good, then it is good!

blackieNYC

Excellent!
J- could you steer me to the schematics I mention just above in reply #1006?
I've seen three black forests, and I'm wondering if these were revisions or improvements for you.
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oops
i think when open this thread, J0K3RX launch the missile BF6  :icon_evil:
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Quote from: blackieNYC on October 13, 2016, 11:35:40 PM
Excellent!
J- could you steer me to the schematics I mention just above in reply #1006?
I've seen three black forests, and I'm wondering if these were revisions or improvements for you.
you want this? this is BF5. i hope J0K3RX give me the blessing permission  ;)

for the layout all onboard pots, just shoot ask J0K3RX  :icon_redface:

Nas

Hey all:

Does anyone have a Randall Satan repair schematic you could PM me or send me a link to? Thanks.

J0K3RX

Quote from: Nas on October 15, 2016, 04:09:26 AM
Hey all:

Does anyone have a Randall Satan repair schematic you could PM me or send me a link to? Thanks.

Nope... I wish I did!  I can say that it sounds a lot like the Fortin Hulk.. Same controls like Grind, Girth and Sweep etc.. I have the Hulk schematics that have been floating around the internet for the past couple years. They may not be 100% but, they are close enough and sound damn good! A lot of people think it's close to the Elan Metalhead also, maybe a combination of the two..? I think the satan/thrasher has more of a Marshall type tone like the Hulk but that's just my opinion.

If there is a satan schematic out there you can bet I WILL find it!! But no luck so far.. :icon_evil:

Are you asking because you have a broken one on your bench? :icon_twisted:
Doesn't matter what you did to get it... If it sounds good, then it is good!

Nas

Quote from: J0K3RX on October 15, 2016, 07:23:16 AM
Are you asking because you have a broken one on your bench? :icon_twisted:

Unfortunately :-\

If you have a link to that Hulk Schematic, that'd be great. (And if you ever find the actual schematic, I'd certainly appreciate it. Thanks, J0K3RX!

J0K3RX

Quote from: Nas on October 16, 2016, 06:42:51 AM
Quote from: J0K3RX on October 15, 2016, 07:23:16 AM
Are you asking because you have a broken one on your bench? :icon_twisted:

Unfortunately :-\

If you have a link to that Hulk Schematic, that'd be great. (And if you ever find the actual schematic, I'd certainly appreciate it. Thanks, J0K3RX!

Unfortunately yes you do have a broken one on your bench or no you do not have one on your bench? :icon_confused:

Hulk
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11178619/Fortin/Fortin%20Hulk.png
Doesn't matter what you did to get it... If it sounds good, then it is good!

J0K3RX

Here is the Black Forest rev.6 and for this demo (and probably every demo going forward) I used DI tracks :icon_twisted:
I used a TS808 in front of the BF6 and some tight reverb, a little EQ and some cab/mic impulses on the tracks..

Killswitch Engage - Rose Of Sharyn DI
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11178619/BF6/BFRev.6-TheFog-RoseofSharynDI-2.mp3
Doesn't matter what you did to get it... If it sounds good, then it is good!

Nas

Quote from: J0K3RX on October 16, 2016, 06:53:04 PM
Unfortunately yes you do have a broken one on your bench or no you do not have one on your bench? :icon_confused:

Hulk
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11178619/Fortin/Fortin%20Hulk.png

Unfortunately, yes :(
Thank you for the Hulk schematic! Hoping this can do the trick.

And if you ever find that Satan schematic, please let me know. Btw, that Black Forest rev.6 demo you posted sounds great!

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